Mikaela Suomalainen
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These are the worst ones, either that I most dislike or have developed past a long time ago or otherwise are outdated or causing more harm than good. I recognise that what has putten online cannot be removed from there permanently, but I have previously hidden material from view and haven't received any feedback on it, so I think I can continue removing things. The plan is first this commit and next time I happen to be going through things, I can probably start saying git rm.
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If ops are attacked, the channel is also hurt as much as if users were attacked. Thus I am also taking action if op is attacked.
Usually when I am op, it’s easy to take action when someone else or some user is attacked. When op is attacked and they take action, they are “unable to handle criticism” or “abusing ops” or anything like that here.
From now, I will try to unlearn from that and be a better op at least on channels that have clear (written or not) rules as on channels that don’t, there possibly no way to know what the ops are even supposed to do other than look so scary that no one does anything bad.
There are only two issues that I see immediately now that I am typing this:
- What is an attack?
- What if it’s not an attack and op makes a mistake?
The second is easy to answer, if there are multiple ops, the user affected by the mistake can discuss about it with other ops present and/or the other ops can revert whatever was done.
But there is still the question what is an attack?
Attack is a deliberate attempt to hurt someone which again is unclear, but so I am told and I must probably use my judgement on it which again can results to mistakes, but those are reversible by other ops.
Trying to analyze logs of the previous case this happened, it
looks like attack is at least:
directly targeted to a person, not part of them, and not generally saying that some part of them makes or doesn’t make them X and neither it’s generally talking about that part and oneself own experiences of them.the not-parts still feel like attacks reading this, but other ops say that it’s assertiveness.
talking about privilege for living in X where things are better and that means that the attacked one cannot have any kinds of issues with anythingincluding mental healthtalking like the attacked one was attacking themadditions welcome
Attack seems to also be when the attacked one communicates being
uncomfortable (which should be done clearly, but do they always remember
that instead of getting defensive) or when third party tells the people
to calm down, but other party still continues. I think the usual
three warnings policy can be implemented here.
One way to express uncomfortability or feeling attacked would be for example saying “I think that is disrespectful” or “I feel you are attacking me”.
Further reading would be the two policies from freenode and I currently don’t feel like commenting them further as my opinions are known.
Reviewed on 2015-06-12T08:51+0300 based on what others commented to me.