mikaela.github.io/pages/matrix.markdown

Just like IRC, Matrix has became a part of my social life online. My room can be found from my discuss page alongside some protocol comparison and my main accounts are in index.

I also have a txt with a list of all my accounts which has SSH signature.

Matrix-related posts

Note that this section is manually updated and might be missing some links.

• Critique
  • Inconsistency issues of Element, Element and Element, also privacy concerns
  • Without selfhosting a homeserver or even then, Matrix moderation tools rely on security through obscurity
• A couple of words on protocols (on the Discuss page)

Questions and Answers

Why so many accounts?

In my opinion it’s preferable to have multiple accounts on different homeservers for ensuring decentralisation instead of having a single authority in power and being able to issue commands from multiple servers in case of federation meltdown which multiple rooms experienced during the period of room version 9 before homeserver software started to nag on unintentionally open registration refusing to start.

Why do you use Matrix URI scheme instead of matrix.to?

I dislike matrix.to as a concept. It’s a centralized service on decentralized protocol and in my opinion it shows lack of self-esteem on Matrix side considering neither XMPP or IRC require something like it, both of those trust being known or handled appropiately.

Which client do you recommend?

The one that fits your needs. Personally I mix-and-match:

• FluffyChat on mobile
  • I am a Finnish translator and moderator. It does multiple accounts.
• hydrogen.element.io PWA mainly on mobile, sometimes on desktop
  • It’s the only Matrix client that is yet to log me out randomly, very stable, multiple account support and so far the only Matrix client running on Nokia 1 (TA-1047).
• develop.element.io / Element flatpak on desktop
  • /devtools is essential (see my critiques), and they don’t support Fedora.
• Nheko nightly flatpak on desktop
  • I am a Finnish translator, it’s actually the most Spec-complete client in my experience without long delays before something becomes supported and it’s lightweight probably for being a native app instead of Electron.

Which homeserver do you recommend?

I am hesistant to recommend any. Finnish users may be interested in the Linux.fi wiki listing, everyone else may be served by joinmatrix.org listing.

Why don’t you run your own?

As can be read between the lines from my critiques, I don’t consider any homeserver to be in the state that it’s either safe to run legally or lightweight enough or not require constant maintenance as opposed to IRC which I do selfhost.

The world situation in general discourages me from anything as heavy.

Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms?

Matrix doesn’t support self-destructing messages or message expiry in general, so I don’t feel comfortable with world-readable logs (which would easily end to search engines forever).

If you need to see something in the backlog, I suggest using IRC (IRC@Etro or PirateIRC especially) or XMPP which each store messages only for 7 days (Ergo default) or some months (Prosody default) on a single server.

I am told that I should Matrixify my IRC channel, what does that mean?

You are likely using IRCnet and I am sorry that you have to deal with this raider group. It means some mix of:

• setting a Matrix avatar to the room
• removing the # from the name of the Matrix room
• setting a main alias to the Matrix room that doesn’t contain the IRC network’s name
• bridging to Matrix in a way that Matrix user (that may not be you) has full power over the room, potentially also over the bridge bot
  • be careful if you are told to answer a bot yes in a /query!

Why should I use Matrix instead of IRC?

No reason, if IRC suits you better than Matrix. As I have said before, I find maintaining IRC easier. IRC also tends to work better for me in poor network conditions and with IRCv3 specifications and implemented draft proposals, it can be very pleasant modern experience without the issues that come from federation.

There is a usecase for every tool and while federation is important feature in general I am yet to miss it in IRC.

I keep mentioning Ergo IRCd, which scales, has serverside history and integrated bouncer feature so it’s just a matter of adding it to your IRC client alongside your SASL credentials and you will receive your offline messages whenever you reconnect. Ergo also supports RELAYMSG making messages from other protocols seem more native to read and many graphical IRC clients even provide integrated image uploading support.

Pirate Party of Finland considers Ergo-based PirateIRC and its webchat a reasonable fallback should we have to leave other protocols or they would be unusable otherwise.

Why isn’t Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix?

This goes a bit past my personal Q&A, but we are using it kind of as a “tech demo”. However it cannot currently mature past that as:

• we don’t have people interested in Matrix (obviously excluding me).
• we don’t have resources for hosting a Matrix homeserver, while we had IRC before we were founded.
• moderation tools are so bad it’s only me dealing with them (see critiques near top of the page).
• Matrix flagship clients, Element Web, Element Android and Element iOS don’t support knocking which has been supported by Matrix Specification since September 2021 or so meaning users of those aren’t able to request access to our rooms.

So do you wish Matrix to fail?

No, I have been using countless of hours at writing these critiques and performing “quality assurance”/testing, localizing clients to Finnish, providing support on their rooms for users of those clients, writing a Matrix Spec Change proposal (that was merged), having coauthored another, writing or contributing documentation in two languages and whatever else I have been doing since 2016.

Matrix has a place in my heart, just as IRC and XMPP and while none of the three are perfect, I wish for the issues get resolved and the fighting between them to end and I am tired of the “stop having fun” or “you are worse person for still using deprecated IRC” or “I wish IRC/XMPP just died already as it’s so old” or whatever attitude I see amongst certain Matrix user/enthustiastic groups.

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The lucky Matrix number is {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}, but do consult the Spec for that and definitely ask !servers upgrade {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}} from Version Checker or Fluff Generator or their siblings.