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title: "Keep the ops opped"
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category: [english]
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tags: [irc, english]
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_Why I think that you should keep the ops opped instead of following
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LiberaChat's recommendations._
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Is there an issue with your IRC channel needing op attention? Without having ops
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visible, your users will very likely go to the network support channel instead
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of informing you or your ops.
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Without ops being visible, who are ops or how to alert them?
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- `/msg chanserv flags #channel`
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- requires whoising all ops to see if they are present
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- idle time gets reset by CTCP replies, OTR and possibly other things.
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LiberaChat staffers may also base their judgement on are there ops present
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to handle the issue on idletime of ops.
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- new users most likely have no idea on the command
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- remote (=different server) whois is rate-limited
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- lists accountnames, not nicknames the people are actually using
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- e.g. I have a less privileged account `Mikaela-`, but my Matrix connection
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is usually called `Michaela` which may not instantly connect in people's
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minds. Ciblia which is one of my fallback usernames is even further away
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from `Mikaela`.
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- `/msg memoserv sendops #channel help! X is spamming`
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- requires +A flag which isn't mostly given to everyone
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- new users are unsure whether they have the flag if they even know about
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existense of the flag or the MemoServ command.
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There is also third commonly used method, having trigger word that either
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highlights all the ops or makes bot PM or highlight the ops which again has it's
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own issues:
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- are the ops surely highlighting on it?
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- the users can be confused for not getting any kind of acknowledging to the
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triggerword without bot and possibly spam it even more
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- if the bot PMs the ops, what if they are on umode +g and miss the bot?
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- if the bot highlights all the ops, what if the ops automatically ignore mass
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highlights (multiple nicks highlighted on the same line)?
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- and again, are the users aware of the triggerword?
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- if you clearly document it on webpage of your channel, the users should be
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aware of it, but what if they didn't bother to read it or forgot it? Their
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fault probably, but your channel is having issues for longer time...
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And there is also the issue of having to trust services or your bots. What if
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the services go down or netsplit and the same happens to your bot? You are out
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of luck unless you had the ops opped in which case the outage doesn't affect you
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that much at all.
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Counter argument: if ops are shown on a support channel, that can make people
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new to IRC ping them about everything instead of asking in the channel in
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gneral. I think it's up to the channel operators to decide how much that weights
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and can the new users be educated without much effort.
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## Fixing LiberaChat
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Tell ChanServ the following three commands:
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```
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/msg chanserv template #channel AOP !+AeoOtvV
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/msg chanserv template #channel FOUNDER !+AFRefioOrstvV
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/msg chanserv template #channel VOP !+AvV
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```
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The ! means "add these flags to everyone who currently matches the template
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exactly" so when you do this everyone who you have made xOP with `/msg chanserv
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someone xOP" gets opped or voiced automatically.<br/> _Note: templates including
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F (founder) are not automatically updated even with the !._
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Alternatively if you have been setting flags manually use
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`/msg chanserv flags #channel someone +O` to automatically op them. You must
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also do this to yourself if you are channel founder, for auto-voicing use +V.
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_Note: +o allows you to manually op/deop anyone, +v is the same, but for voice,
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so don't confuse the casing._
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Changelog:
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- Part 1:
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https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/_posts/2015-04-01-keep-the-ops-opped.md
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- Part 2:
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https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2015-04-01-keep-the-ops-opped.md
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