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Collected critiques on Matrix pending https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/issues/248 . Copiable either as oneliner or markdown list.
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Collected critiques on Matrix pending https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/issues/248 . Copiable either as oneliner or markdown list.
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https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/08/03/matrix-perfect-privacy-not.html#you-mentioned-privacy https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/12/05/matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.html https://www.aminda.eu/discuss.html#a-couple-of-words-on-protocols
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https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/08/03/matrix-perfect-privacy-not.html#you-mentioned-privacy https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/12/05/matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.html https://www.aminda.eu/discuss.html#a-couple-of-words-on-protocols https://www.aminda.eu/matrix/#questions-and-answers
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```
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```
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* https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/08/03/matrix-perfect-privacy-not.html#you-mentioned-privacy
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* https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/08/03/matrix-perfect-privacy-not.html#you-mentioned-privacy
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* https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/12/05/matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.html
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* https://www.aminda.eu/blog/english/2021/12/05/matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.html
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* https://www.aminda.eu/discuss.html#a-couple-of-words-on-protocols
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* https://www.aminda.eu/discuss.html#a-couple-of-words-on-protocols
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* https://www.aminda.eu/matrix/#questions-and-answers
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```
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```
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sitemap: false
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sitemap: false
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permalink: /keys/
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permalink: /keys/
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redirect_from:
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redirect_from:
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- /matrix.html
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- /omemo.html
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- /omemo.html
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- /otr.html
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- /otr.html
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- /pgp.html
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- /pgp.html
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navigation: true
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navigation: true
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permalink: /matrix/
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permalink: /matrix/
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excerpt: "Matrix, a decentralised conversation store"
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excerpt: "Matrix, a decentralised conversation store"
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- /matrix.html
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Just like [IRC](/irc/), *Matrix* has became a part of my social life online. My
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Just like [IRC](/irc/), *Matrix* has became a part of my social life online. My
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I dislike matrix.to as a concept. It's a centralized service on decentralized protocol and in my opinion it shows lack of self-esteem on Matrix side considering neither XMPP or IRC require something like it, both of those trust being known or handled appropiately.
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I dislike matrix.to as a concept. It's a centralized service on decentralized protocol and in my opinion it shows lack of self-esteem on Matrix side considering neither XMPP or IRC require something like it, both of those trust being known or handled appropiately.
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### What are ghost and puppets?
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They are related to bringing Matrix to other protocols or vice versa.
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* A ghost is a Matrix account on another protocol like IRC or XMPP (controlled from Matrix).
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* A puppet is the opposite, a Matrix account controlled from another protocol such as IRC or XMPP (the controller/puppetmaster being the user there).
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* A double-puppet is when you are using both protocols and have connected them to each other such as a message from Discord appears as your real Matrix account and message from Matrixx appears as your real Discord account instead of something virtual only existing due to the bridge.
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### Which client do you recommend?
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### Which client do you recommend?
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The one that fits your needs. Personally I mix-and-match:
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The one that fits your needs. Personally I mix-and-match:
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The world situation in general discourages me from anything as heavy.
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The world situation in general discourages me from anything as heavy.
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### Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms?
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Matrix doesn't support self-destructing messages or message expiry in general, so
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I don't feel comfortable with world-readable logs (which would easily end to
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search engines forever).
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If you need to see something in the backlog, I suggest
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using IRC (IRC@Etro or PirateIRC especially) or XMPP which each store messages
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only for 7 days (Ergo default) or some months (Prosody default) on a single server.
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### I am told that I should Matrixify my IRC channel, what does that mean?
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You are likely using IRCnet and I am sorry that you have to deal with this raider group. It means some mix of:
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* setting a Matrix avatar to the room
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* removing the `#` from the name of the Matrix room
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* setting a main alias to the Matrix room that doesn't contain the IRC network's name
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* bridging to Matrix in a way that Matrix user (that may not be you) has full power over the room, potentially also over the bridge bot
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* be careful if you are told to answer a bot `yes` in a `/query`!
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### Why should I use Matrix instead of IRC?
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No reason, if IRC suits you better than Matrix. As I have said before, I find
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maintaining IRC easier. IRC also tends to work better for me in poor network conditions
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and with [IRCv3](https://ircv3.net/) specifications and implemented draft proposals,
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it can be very pleasant modern experience without the issues that come from federation.
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There is a usecase for every tool and while federation is important feature
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in general I am yet to miss it in IRC.
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I keep mentioning Ergo IRCd, which [scales](https://github.com/ergochat/ergo/blob/master/docs/MANUAL.md#scalability), has serverside history and integrated bouncer
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feature so it's just a matter of adding it to your IRC client alongside your
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SASL credentials and you will receive your offline messages whenever you
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reconnect. Ergo also supports `RELAYMSG` making messages from other protocols
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seem more native to read and many graphical IRC clients even provide integrated
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image uploading support.
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[Pirate Party of Finland](https://piraattipuolue.fi/en) considers Ergo-based [PirateIRC](https://pirateirc.net/)
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and [its webchat](https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) a reasonable fallback should we have to leave other protocols
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or they would be unusable otherwise.
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### Why isn't Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix?
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This goes a bit past my personal Q&A, but we are using it kind of as a "tech demo".
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However it cannot currently mature past that as:
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* we don't have people interested in Matrix (obviously excluding me).
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* we don't have resources for hosting a Matrix homeserver, while we had IRC before we were founded.
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* moderation tools are so bad it's only me dealing with them (see critiques near top of the page).
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* [Matrix flagship clients, Element Web, Element Android and Element iOS don't support knocking](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/43)
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which has been supported by Matrix Specification since September 2021 or so meaning
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users of those aren't able to request access to our rooms.
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### So do you wish Matrix to fail?
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No, I have been using countless of hours at writing these critiques and performing "quality assurance"/testing,
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localizing clients to Finnish, providing support on their rooms for users of those clients, writing a Matrix
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Spec Change proposal (that was merged), having coauthored another, writing or contributing documentation in two languages
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and whatever else I have been doing since 2016.
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Matrix has a place in my heart, just as IRC and XMPP and while none of the three are perfect, I wish for the issues
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get resolved and the fighting between them to end and I am tired of the "stop having fun" or "you are worse person for still using deprecated IRC"
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or "I wish IRC/XMPP just died already as it's so old" or whatever attitude I see amongst certain Matrix user/enthustiastic groups.
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* * * * *
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*The lucky Matrix number is `{{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}`, but do [consult the Spec for that](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/#complete-list-of-room-versions) and definitely ask `!servers upgrade {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` from [Version Checker](matrix:u/version:maunium.net) or [Fluff Generator](matrix:u/+:jae.fi) or [their siblings](https://github.com/maubot/rsvc).*
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*The lucky Matrix number is `{{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}`, but do [consult the Spec for that](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/#complete-list-of-room-versions) and definitely ask `!servers upgrade {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` from [Version Checker](matrix:u/version:maunium.net) or [Fluff Generator](matrix:u/+:jae.fi) or [their siblings](https://github.com/maubot/rsvc).*
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