diff --git a/n/localectl.md b/n/localectl.md index 2ba7f55..cdcd306 100644 --- a/n/localectl.md +++ b/n/localectl.md @@ -23,7 +23,7 @@ robots: noai Automaattinen sisällysluettelo / Automatically generated Table of Contents - [Ready commands](#ready-commands) - - [Internationalish](#internationalish) + - [Finland compatible internationalish English](#finland-compatible-internationalish-english) - [Finland Finnish](#finland-finnish) - [Explanations](#explanations) @@ -34,34 +34,34 @@ robots: noai ## Ready commands -### Internationalish +### Finland compatible internationalish English -`% sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_GB.utf8 LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.utf8 LC_NAME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.utf8` +```bash +sudo localectl set-locale LANG=en_IE.utf8 LC_TIME=en_DK.utf8 LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.utf8 LC_NAME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.utf8 +``` -- This will speak English, but use euros and other Finnish cultural defaults, while time is shown as ISO 8601. +- Everything will be in English, but time will be in ISO 8601, financial units use Finnish separators, names are sorted according to Finnish alphabet (a, …, x, y, z, å, ä, ö) and phone numbers begin with the Finnish `+358` prefix. ### Finland Finnish -`% sudo localectl set-locale LANG=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TIME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.utf8 LC_NAME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.utf8` +``` +sudo localectl set-locale LANG=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TIME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.utf8 LC_NAME=fi_FI.utf8 LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.utf8 +``` ## Explanations -- LANG is the language and defaults for other variables if they are unset - and as I said I prefer en_GB which is better in Europe for matching the - standards better than en_US. -- LC_TIME sets the time format and en_DK gives ISO 8601 date format for - everything respecting LC_TIME (at least `date` and M̀ATE panel clock - don't respect it). -- LC_MONETARY sets the currency and how sums of it are managed and the - only issue with en_GB is it using £ instead of € which affects at least - spreadsheets. -- LC_NAME sets name format and I prefer Finnish (just the name) to British - which has ms/mrs/mr and I hate them being gendered and I doubt it - understands mx. +- LANG is the language and defaults for other variables if they are unset. + en_DK gives ISO 8601 date format for everything respecting LC_TIME. + - `LANG=en_IE date` returns `Sun 02 Jun 2024 11:05:04 EEST`, + while `LANG=en_DK date` returns `2024-06-02T11:05:04 EEST`. +- LC_MONETARY sets the currency and how sums of it are managed. +- LC_NAME sets name format and I prefer Finnish (just the name) to Irish + which probably has `M{r,s,rs}` and I hate them being gendered and I doubt it + understands Mx. - LC_TELEPHONE sets telephone number format and I set it to fi_FI as it defaults international numbers to +358 and I am more likely to be typing - Finnish numbers than British. I imagine it can affect office tools, and - it's here more just in case. + Finnish numbers than Irish. I imagine it can affect office tools, and + it's here more of just in case. And naturally to use these locales, they must be compiled. @@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ So `/etc/locale.gen` must include the lines ``` en_DK.UTF-8 UTF-8 -en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8 +en_IE.UTF-8 UTF-8 # If you don't have en_US, things will break! en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8 fi_FI.UTF-8 UTF-8 @@ -82,25 +82,27 @@ the editing and locale-gen and that is probably what you are supposed to use.) It seems like I didn't even say anything about that UTF-8 part, but -it's 2016 and everything is UTF-8 (or your things are horribly broken +it's 2024 and everything is UTF-8 (or your things are horribly broken and the rest of the world hates you). Sources/thanks: - [Arch Wiki: Locale, LC_TIME](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/locale#LC_TIME:_date_and_time_format) -- [Locale Helper: en_GB](https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_GB/) -- [Locale Helper\_ fi_FI](https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/fi_FI/) +- [Locale Helper: en_IE](https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/en_IE/) +- [Locale Helper: fi_FI](https://lh.2xlibre.net/locale/fi_FI/) - [Wikipedia: UTF-8](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTF-8) - - Random misplaced advice on disabling charset fallback in your - IRC client and being UTF-8 only so you see when someone is not - using UTF-8 and don't submit useless bug reports to - bots/bridges/whatever thare are UTF-8 only as supporting every - charset is not possible as IRC has nothing to declare character - set and there is zero reason why you wouln't be using UTF-8! + - Random misplaced advice: disable charset fallback in your + IRC client and be UTF-8 only! You will see when someone is not + using UTF-8 and won't submit useless bug reports to + bots/bridges/whatever that are UTF-8 only (as supporting every + charset is impossible, since IRC has nothing to declare character + set, and there is zero reason why you wouln't be using UTF-8! Well nowadays + some have [IRCv3 `UTF8ONLY` `ISUPPORT` token](https://ircv3.net/specs/extensions/utf8-only)). - [ISO 8601](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601) - You should read it or at least be aware of it especially if you are in contact with people from other countries and even more if you - are in international communities! + are in international communities trying to get anything done with + anything that has to do with time or date! --- @@ -112,4 +114,10 @@ Either I was wrong on it being list of fallback languages I wish to use, or GNOME has different view on it, but as I think I have seen errors related to it before, I will drop `LANGUAGE` from the variables I set. -2024-04-04: `export LANGUAGE=eo:fi:en` in a file read by my `zshrc` works fine as it gets read before my `startsway` anyway +--- + +2024-04-04: `export LANGUAGE=eo:fi:en` in a file read by my [`zshrc`](https://gitea.blesmrt.net/mikaela/shell-things/src/branch/master/rc/zshrc) works fine as it gets read before my [`startsway`](https://gitea.blesmrt.net/mikaela/scripts/src/branch/master/bash/usr-local-bin/startsway) anyway. + +--- + +2024-06-02: fixed a lot of language, practically rewrote the page.