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title: "Telegrams second chance"
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category: [english]
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tags: [telegram, english, esperanto]
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redirect_from: /telegram.html
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---
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*I have blogged about Telegram a lot and I thought I would end it to
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leaving it, but that didn't happen. However I MUST type about the
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current situation I have with it.*
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**TL;DR I don't recommend Telegram for anyone if you aren't forced to use
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it and to protect myself I am not setting username. As I don't recommend
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it, I am there only with my primary phone number (DO NOT SHARE IT), if
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someone needs to contact me, use Matrix @Ciblia:matrix.org or Wire
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(myname at myname dot info).**
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* * * * *
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If you haven't read my blog previously, you might want to read the aspects
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of Telegram I have written about earlier:
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* [How to private message people on Telegram without getting reported for spam]({% post_url 2016-04-26-telegram-privatemessaging-people %})
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* Where I have Telegrams spam issue my issue and try to make it clear
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to its users that they are not behaving properly.
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* [Why I use Telegram?]({% post_url 2016-05-21-why-telegram %})
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* Where I talk about the positive aspects.
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* [Telegram tweets where I refer often]({% post_url 2016-06-01-telegram-tweets %})
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* The beginning (and end) with communication with Telegram developers.
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* I have also tweeted to [Wire] multiple times and I cannot
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remember any tweet that they haven't replied just as a
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side-note...
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* [Why to not use Telegram?]({% post_url 2016-09-29-why-not-telegram %})
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* Where I finally leave Telegram and talk about the negative aspects.
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*I also think I am not going to edit all of those posts and if you have a
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problem, feel free to send Pull Requests.*
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* * * * *
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So in the previous episode I left Telegram (and after a long time briefly
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visited it again as there were problems with relaybot (which simply
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moved to another persons API key) but it was too stressful so I left
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almost immediately) and now after a long time I have returned there.
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I would have preferred avoiding it, but I started learning Esperanto on
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Sunday (20th) in the freenode channel (use ALIS) I was overspoken to
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returning there as
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[Telegram is very popular with Esperantists (link in Esperanto)](http://telegramo.org/).
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This brings me back Telegram issues where the only ones that I can affect
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are:
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* *Twisted version of FOSS*
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* As the app is open source even if the source is released long time
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after releases, it's in [F-Droid](https://f-droid.org/) which is
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Android app store for FOSS apps, which has compiled it (removing
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GCM support and possibly other propietary parts) I installed Telegram
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from there and I know the app which I am using is open source even
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if it lags long behind the Play Store version.
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* *Spam*
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* I don't set username (killing one of the only good things in
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Telegram) as that would allow anyone to contact me instead of only
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the people who have my number or are in common group with me.
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* I only join groups that I actually need to join avoiding bigger
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groups that might potentially be nice, but which would surely lure
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spammers. This is another good feature of Telegram killed.
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* This way to contact me you must have my number or be in common
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group and I might know which group the spammer is part of and
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in addition to reporting them for spam I can also report them
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to the group admin possibly getting them removed. I don't think
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Esperantists, SailfishOS fans or autists tolerate spamming.
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* * * * *
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Originally I was trying to be at Telegram using both phones (OnePlus3 &
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Jolla1), but people found it too confusing so I decided to kill the less
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private account to avoid confusion. It also makes the message that I
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don't support Telegram more clear, but makes contacting me more
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difficult for Telegram users who actually have something to say to me,
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but that is their problem. **Do NOT give my phone number to these
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people.**
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I think my primary communication protocol is currently
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[Matrix](https://matrix.org/) where I am
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[@Ciblia:matrix.org](https://matrix.to/#/@Ciblia:matrix.org), but
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[IRC](/irc) isn't going anywhere either (especially thanks to
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[Matrixs IRC bridge](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-appservice-irc/issues/208)).
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I have also started warming to [Wire] which doesn't require phone number
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(when registering using the [web or desktop apps](https://app.wire.com/)),
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seems to have better encryption than Telegram (which is not surprising)
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which is based on Signal and works on multiple devices without having to
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keep one connected all the time.
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[Wire]:https://wire.com/
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[WhatsApp]:https://whatsapp.com/
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[Signal]:https://whispersystems.org/
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