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blog/keep-the-ops-opped: freenode is dead
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*Why I think that you should keep the ops opped instead of following
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freenode's recommendations.*
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***2021-05-23: this all also applies to LiberaChat and as this is possibly
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one of the posts where I refer people to the most with anchor links, I am
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not swapping the name like I am doing with everything else.***
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LiberaChat's recommendations.*
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Is there an issue with your IRC channel needing op attention? Without
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having ops visible, your users will very likely go to the network support
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@ -22,12 +18,11 @@ channel instead of informing you or your ops.
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Without ops being visible, who are ops or how to alert them?
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* `/msg chanserv access #channel list` / `/msg chanserv flags #channel`
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(the second command is for Libera.Chat that has enabled pubacl module)
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* `/msg chanserv flags #channel`
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* requires whoising all ops to see if they are present
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* idle time gets reset by CTCP replies, OTR and possibly other
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things. Freenode staffers also base their judgement on are there
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ops present to handle the issue on idletime of ops.
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things. LiberaChat staffers may also base their judgement on are
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there ops present to handle the issue on idletime of ops.
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* new users most likely have no idea on the command
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* remote (=different server) whois is rate-limited
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* `/msg memoserv sendops #channel help! X is spamming`
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@ -56,9 +51,12 @@ What if the services go down or netsplit and the same happens to your bot?
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You are out of luck unless you had the ops opped in which case the outage
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doesn't affect you that much at all.
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## Fixing freenode
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Counter argument: if ops are shown on a support channel, that can make
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people new to IRC ping them about everything instead of asking in the
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channel in gneral. I think it's up to the channel operators to decide how
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much that weights and can the new users be educated without much effort.
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*or LiberaChat*
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## Fixing LiberaChat
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Tell ChanServ the following three commands:
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@ -80,7 +78,7 @@ must also do this to yourself if you are channel founder, for auto-voicing
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use +V. *Note: +o allows you to manually op/deop anyone, +v is the same,
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but for voice, so don't confuse the casing.*
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*Somewhat rewritten on 2015-04-28 13:25Z and now this looks even worse
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to my eyes... ([Changelog](https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/_posts/2015-04-01-keep-the-ops-opped.md))*
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Changelog:
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*2015-07-08: add fixing freenode.*
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* Part 1: https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/_posts/2015-04-01-keep-the-ops-opped.md
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* Part 2: https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2015-04-01-keep-the-ops-opped.md
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