From 597eaf2064072e207f779f1ce9aa42176f99cc7f Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Aminda Suomalainen Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2023 17:25:48 +0300 Subject: [PATCH] pages/matrix: isolate personal questions --- pages/matrix.markdown | 125 ++++++++++++++++++++++-------------------- 1 file changed, 65 insertions(+), 60 deletions(-) diff --git a/pages/matrix.markdown b/pages/matrix.markdown index 4f13cd1..977f9b0 100644 --- a/pages/matrix.markdown +++ b/pages/matrix.markdown @@ -31,8 +31,6 @@ links._ - [Where else can I read about Matrix?](#where-else-can-i-read-about-matrix) - [How do you do custom not-emoji reactions?](#how-do-you-do-custom-not-emoji-reactions) -- [Why so many accounts?](#why-so-many-accounts) -- [Why do you use Matrix URI scheme instead of matrix.to?](#why-do-you-use-matrix-uri-scheme-instead-of-matrixto) - [What are ghost and puppets?](#what-are-ghost-and-puppets) - [What does the public history visibility mean? I don't want to appear in search engines](#what-does-the-public-history-visibility-mean-i-dont-want-to-appear-in-search-engines) - [Can I see who is in any specific room without being there?](#can-i-see-who-is-in-any-specific-room-without-being-there) @@ -40,18 +38,21 @@ links._ - [How about DAG splits?](#how-about-dag-splits) - [What are these idlekicks for inactivity, why are they for?](#what-are-these-idlekicks-for-inactivity-why-are-they-for) - [But the relaybots look so ugly](#but-the-relaybots-look-so-ugly) -- [Why does one of your accounts have capital letter in the username?](#why-does-one-of-your-accounts-have-capital-letter-in-the-username) -- [Which client do you recommend?](#which-client-do-you-recommend) -- [Which homeserver do you recommend?](#which-homeserver-do-you-recommend) -- [Why don't you run your own?](#why-dont-you-run-your-own) -- [Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms?](#why-cannot-i-see-history-in-your-matrix-rooms) - [I am told that I should Matrixify my IRC channel, what does that mean?](#i-am-told-that-i-should-matrixify-my-irc-channel-what-does-that-mean) - [Why should I use Matrix instead of IRC?](#why-should-i-use-matrix-instead-of-irc) -- [Why isn't Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix?](#why-isnt-pirate-party-of-finland-using-matrix) + - [Why isn't Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix?](#why-isnt-pirate-party-of-finland-using-matrix) - [I don't currently want to touch Matrix, but I am seeing abuse from there, what can I do?](#i-dont-currently-want-to-touch-matrix-but-i-am-seeing-abuse-from-there-what-can-i-do) - [I fear someone has said yes](#i-fear-someone-has-said-yes) - - [That doesn't help me](#that-doesnt-help-me) -- [So do you wish Matrix to fail?](#so-do-you-wish-matrix-to-fail) + - [That doesn't help me](#that-doesnt-help-me) + - [Personal questions](#personal-questions) + - [Why so many accounts?](#why-so-many-accounts) + - [Why do you use Matrix URI scheme instead of matrix.to?](#why-do-you-use-matrix-uri-scheme-instead-of-matrixto) + - [Why does one of your accounts have capital letter in the username?](#why-does-one-of-your-accounts-have-capital-letter-in-the-username) + - [Which client do you recommend?](#which-client-do-you-recommend) + - [Which homeserver do you recommend?](#which-homeserver-do-you-recommend) + - [Why don't you run your own?](#why-dont-you-run-your-own) + - [Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms?](#why-cannot-i-see-history-in-your-matrix-rooms) + - [So do you wish Matrix to fail?](#so-do-you-wish-matrix-to-fail) @@ -73,14 +74,6 @@ They are implemented by multiple clients other than Element. In FluffyChat, Gomu [Element-Web doesn't support this yet](https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/19409) and while there is [open pull request](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-react-sdk/pull/6628), the merging is blocked due to Element not knowing how to handle moderation and reporting for malicious reactions. -### Why so many accounts? - -In my opinion it's preferable to have multiple accounts on different homeservers for ensuring decentralisation instead of having a single authority in power and being able to issue commands from multiple servers in case of federation meltdown which multiple rooms experienced during the period of room version 9 before homeserver software started to nag on unintentionally open registration refusing to start. Additionally state resets are a good reason to keep old accounts around. - -### Why do you use Matrix URI scheme instead of matrix.to? - -I dislike matrix.to as a concept. It's a centralized service on decentralized protocol and in my opinion it shows lack of self-esteem on Matrix side considering neither XMPP or IRC require something like it, both of those trust being known or handled appropiately. - ### What are ghost and puppets? They are related to bringing Matrix to other protocols or vice versa. @@ -173,44 +166,6 @@ This means that even before IRCv3 RELAYMSG and displayname proposals, which I wi I hope Matrix will get better at this too. -### Why does one of your accounts have capital letter in the username? - -In 2016 or so I mistakenly thought that usernames would be case-insensitive -and they only [got banned in Synapse on 10th November 2017](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/2662). - -### Which client do you recommend? - -The one that fits your needs. Personally I mix-and-match: - -- FluffyChat on mobile - - I am a Finnish translator and moderator. It does multiple accounts. -- hydrogen.element.io PWA mainly on mobile, sometimes on desktop - - It's the only Matrix client that is yet to log me out randomly, very stable, multiple account support and so far the only Matrix client running on Nokia 1 (TA-1047). -- develop.element.io / Element flatpak on desktop - - `/devtools` is essential (see my critiques), and they don't support Fedora. -- Nheko nightly flatpak on desktop - - I am a Finnish translator, it's actually the most Spec-complete client in my experience without long delays before something becomes supported and it's lightweight probably for being a native app instead of Electron. - -### Which homeserver do you recommend? - -I am hesistant to recommend any. Finnish users may be interested in the [Linux.fi wiki listing](https://www.linux.fi/wiki/Matrix), everyone else may be served by [joinmatrix.org listing](https://joinmatrix.org/servers/). - -### Why don't you run your own? - -As can be read between the lines from my critiques, I don't consider any homeserver to be in the state that it's either safe to run legally or lightweight enough or not require constant maintenance as opposed to IRC which I do selfhost. - -The world situation in general discourages me from anything as heavy. - -### Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms? - -Matrix doesn't support self-destructing messages or message expiry in general, so -I don't feel comfortable with world-readable logs (which would easily end to -search engines forever). - -If you need to see something in the backlog, I suggest -using IRC (IRC@Etro or PirateIRC especially) or XMPP which each store messages -only for 7 days (Ergo default) or some months (Prosody default) on a single server. - ### I am told that I should Matrixify my IRC channel, what does that mean? You are likely using IRCnet and I am sorry that you have to deal with this raider group. It means some mix of: @@ -242,7 +197,7 @@ image uploading support. and [its webchat](https://webchat.pirateirc.net/) a reasonable fallback should we have to leave other protocols or they would be unusable otherwise. -### Why isn't Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix? +#### Why isn't Pirate Party of Finland using Matrix? This goes a bit past my personal Q&A, but we are using it kind of as a "tech demo". However it cannot currently mature past that as: @@ -264,7 +219,7 @@ If you want in, your options are: - Come to [#verkkopalvelut using PrateIRC webchat](https://webchat.pirateirc.net/?channel=#verkkopalvelut) and tell `AmindaSuomalainen` your Matrix ID in a nice message (to show you aren't a bot) that you wish in. -### I don't currently want to touch Matrix, but I am seeing abuse from there, what can I do? +## I don't currently want to touch Matrix, but I am seeing abuse from there, what can I do? If you are using Telegram or Discord, you are out of luck, as while you can remove messages, that may get removed from Matrix, you cannot remove the @@ -289,7 +244,7 @@ gecos/"real name" in which case your only option is to ban the entirety of Matrix. E.g. on LiberaChat `/mode +b _!_@2001:470:69fc:105::/64` assuming your abusers don't have a cloak (vhost in any other IRC network)._ -#### I fear someone has said yes +### I fear someone has said yes In that case someone may have near absolute power on the Matrix side and could have removed the matrix-appservice-irc bot from power thus preventing it from @@ -319,7 +274,57 @@ I would include: I haven't tried this personally though, as I am Matrix user and have been sending raw events in JSON to them. -### So do you wish Matrix to fail? +### Personal questions + +So the list above seems clearer not having me-questions mixed with everything else. + +#### Why so many accounts? + +In my opinion it's preferable to have multiple accounts on different homeservers for ensuring decentralisation instead of having a single authority in power and being able to issue commands from multiple servers in case of federation meltdown which multiple rooms experienced during the period of room version 9 before homeserver software started to nag on unintentionally open registration refusing to start. Additionally state resets are a good reason to keep old accounts around. + +#### Why do you use Matrix URI scheme instead of matrix.to? + +I dislike matrix.to as a concept. It's a centralized service on decentralized protocol and in my opinion it shows lack of self-esteem on Matrix side considering neither XMPP or IRC require something like it, both of those trust being known or handled appropiately. + +#### Why does one of your accounts have capital letter in the username? + +In 2016 or so I mistakenly thought that usernames would be case-insensitive +and they only [got banned in Synapse on 10th November 2017](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/pull/2662). + +#### Which client do you recommend? + +The one that fits your needs. Personally I mix-and-match: + +- FluffyChat on mobile + - I am a Finnish translator and moderator. It does multiple accounts. +- hydrogen.element.io PWA mainly on mobile, sometimes on desktop + - It's the only Matrix client that is yet to log me out randomly, very stable, multiple account support and so far the only Matrix client running on Nokia 1 (TA-1047). +- develop.element.io / Element flatpak on desktop + - `/devtools` is essential (see my critiques), and they don't support Fedora. +- Nheko nightly flatpak on desktop + - I am a Finnish translator, it's actually the most Spec-complete client in my experience without long delays before something becomes supported and it's lightweight probably for being a native app instead of Electron. + +#### Which homeserver do you recommend? + +I am hesistant to recommend any. Finnish users may be interested in the [Linux.fi wiki listing](https://www.linux.fi/wiki/Matrix), everyone else may be served by [joinmatrix.org listing](https://joinmatrix.org/servers/). + +#### Why don't you run your own? + +As can be read between the lines from my critiques, I don't consider any homeserver to be in the state that it's either safe to run legally or lightweight enough or not require constant maintenance as opposed to IRC which I do selfhost. + +The world situation in general discourages me from anything as heavy. + +#### Why cannot I see history in your Matrix rooms? + +Matrix doesn't support self-destructing messages or message expiry in general, so +I don't feel comfortable with world-readable logs (which would easily end to +search engines forever). + +If you need to see something in the backlog, I suggest +using IRC (IRC@Etro or PirateIRC especially) or XMPP which each store messages +only for 7 days (Ergo default) or some months (Prosody default) on a single server. + +#### So do you wish Matrix to fail? No, I have been using countless of hours at writing these critiques and performing "quality assurance"/testing, localizing clients to Finnish, providing support on their rooms for users of those clients, writing a Matrix