diff --git a/_posts/2016-05-03-the-three-dramas-of-antergos.md b/_posts/2016-05-03-the-three-dramas-of-antergos.md new file mode 100644 index 0000000..10d4a50 --- /dev/null +++ b/_posts/2016-05-03-the-three-dramas-of-antergos.md @@ -0,0 +1,1275 @@ +--- +layout: post +comments: true +title: "The three days of dramas with Antergos" +category: [english] +tags: [english, IRC] +--- + +*I am not emotionless robot and I am able to make mistakes like anyone + else. I am not a superhuman.* + +## 2016-05-01 + +One user starts suggesting to ask support from Arch support channels +which is simply not OK and they are just causing harm to Antergos from +Arch side if they do that, no matter how much they edit `lsb_release`. I +get heated (I suffer from depression/anxiety/AvPD by the way) and kicked +them with message `first warning`. That was my mistake and it wasn't took +well and later when the user started commenting them I removed them instead +of kicking. This later caused long argument on operator channel where TL;DR +version is that they cannot understand that I am a human instead of +superhuman or emotionless robot. + +The Antergos-ops part happened when I was at Gaymer's night and made the +mistake of being available. Thanks to the discussion I couldn't enjoy the +games, got suicidal, left the event, considered jumping under car or metro, +but instead asked at PirateIRC/#helsinki if anyone was at the pirate club. + +There were people at the pirate club thanks to demonstration about +*blackmailing letters* (Google Translated word), so I went there instead. + +Outside I met them and just cried and one of them hugged me and comforted +me and finally got out of me what had happened. Logs and then it has been +enough of this day, I guess. + +### Antergos + +
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I tried going +here: +https://forum.antergos.com/topic/1933/is-it-possible-to-add-antergos-repo-to-arch/2 +and the link that's listed there says "404 not found" +[06:09:58] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/bugKhO] Is it possible to add +Antergos repo to Arch? | Antergos Community Forum +[06:10:03] Did the package move? +[06:11:27] If it did, where can I find it? +[06:12:42] Oh wait... I think I found it... +[06:13:14] *** Aria22|away is now known as Aria +[06:14:01] *** Aria is now known as Aria|away +[06:50:28] *** Quits: s8321414 (~s8321414@150.117.138.97) (Quit: +Konversation terminated!) +[07:04:59] yerp... found it... :3 +[07:06:13] *** nullstring is now known as Byan +[07:11:13] *** Quits: SpacePirate +(~heyitk12@2604:6000:fbc4:3500:21e:4fff:fef9:4cb3) (Quit: Welp... My +Little Pony FTW... WeeChat 1.4) +[07:26:31] *** Quits: xvx (~xvx@5.42.129.52) (Quit: My Mac has gone to +sleep. ZZZzzz…) +[07:33:17] *** Joins: CountryfiedLinux +(~Robert@97-81-179-113.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) +[07:33:18] *** Quits: CountryfiedLinux +(~Robert@97-81-179-113.dhcp.gwnt.ga.charter.com) (Changing host) +[07:33:18] *** Joins: CountryfiedLinux +(~Robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux) +[07:34:06] good evening +[08:44:10] mau +[08:44:27] I feel bad for everyone whose children have +installed Antergos for them https://github.com/Antergos/Cnchi/issues/587 +[08:44:29] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/PE9KdF] Installing Antergos in +Brazilian Portuguese with LibreOffice opted-in doesn't work · Issue #587 +· Antergos/Cnchi · GitHub +[08:51:07] *** Quits: CountryfiedLinux +(~Robert@unaffiliated/countryfiedlinux) (Quit: Leaving) +[09:37:23] *** Joins: swipe (~swipe@unaffiliated/swipe-) +[10:40:35] *** Joins: xvx (~xvx@5.42.129.52) +[10:43:37] *** Quits: glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) (Ping +timeout: 260 seconds) +[10:51:17] *** Quits: xvx (~xvx@5.42.129.52) (Max SendQ exceeded) +[10:52:06] *** Joins: xvx (~xvx@5.42.129.52) +[10:59:41] *** Joins: sonicpp (~jan@havhav.seb.rev-fortech.cz) +[11:01:12] *** Joins: mike-zal +(~michaldyb@acpu238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) +[11:16:09] *** Quits: xvx (~xvx@5.42.129.52) (Quit: Textual IRC Client: +www.textualapp.com) +[11:27:29] *** Joins: ringo32 (~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32) +[11:28:55] *** Joins: glebihan_ (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) +[11:34:16] *** Joins: opalepatrick +(~opalepatr@242.104.125.91.dyn.plus.net) +[11:47:51] *** Joins: Jeannie (~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie) +[11:55:23] *** Quits: mike-zal +(~michaldyb@acpu238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Quit: Konversation +terminated!) +[11:56:00] *** Joins: mike-zal +(~michaldyb@acpu238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) +[12:06:35] if I wanted to just move from Antergos to Arch +completely, would I have to reinstall it or can I really just remove +[antergos] from the pacman.conf? +[12:13:05] you are already on arch +[12:13:08] cedra, +[12:13:32] yeah but like, what's the actual difference +[12:13:43] what is the differences ? +[12:13:49] except for the packages that it installs +[12:14:03] antergos is not manjaro +[12:14:15] Never tried manjaro +[12:14:51] Manjaro using own repo's and its quite suck to +revert to arch... Antergos is stil arch with a repo of there own but +most repos are arch +[12:15:16] right so it's just the antergos repo? +[12:15:18] if arch is up2date antergos also +[12:15:27] is just antergos repo with there things +[12:15:32] is quite handy also +[12:15:51] Neat +[12:16:13] nothing to bother to reinstall or remove something +dont see a point +[12:16:15] ;) +[12:29:07] @cedra, reinstall +[12:29:54] why's that +[12:30:19] because that way there won't be +Antergos presets possibly causing issues. +[12:33:29] hm. are there any common instances in which that has +happened before? +[12:34:19] why reinstall :) +[12:34:30] Client: HexChat 2.12.0 • OS: ArchLinux • CPU: +Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz (1,60GHz) • Memory: +Physical: 3,8 GiB Total (2,7 GiB Free) Swap: 3,7 GiB Total (3,7 GiB +Free) • Storage: 148,7 GB / 639,7 GB (491,0 GB Free) • VGA: NVIDIA +Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] @ Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 +Express DRAM Controller • Uptime: 1h 26m 24s +[12:34:41] what the hell is different then :) +[12:34:54] I don't know, but if you ask them support for Arch, +they will just hate Angergos users more and the topic forbids that. Also +if you just removed the Antergos repo, your system would still identify +as Antergos which would also read in the logs. +[12:35:06] ringo32: lsb_release -sa +[12:35:31] jugo@konoha ~ % lsb_release -sa +[12:35:31] 1.4 Arch "Arch Linux" rolling n/a +[12:35:31] ringo@konoha ~ % +[12:35:33] But what if you change the kernel +[12:35:43] to like, for example, the libre version +[12:35:59] +http://mirror.de.leaseweb.net/antergos/antergos/x86_64/ +[12:36:00] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/iEaWNC] +mirror.fra10.de.leaseweb.net | powered by LeaseWeb +[12:36:08] Look what's inside the antergos repo +[12:36:16] Everything else is arch +[12:36:29] but reinstall wont help +[12:36:31] ringo32: Antergos identifies as Antergos unless you +have old install, I think +[12:36:35] dont fix if aint broken +[12:36:43] ironic :p +[12:36:58] I really just have the antergos-welcome package +[12:37:00] or something has updated and changed it +[12:37:01] lsb_release is just a easy edit +[12:37:15] My kernel identifies as 4.5.1-1 ARCH +[12:37:19] switch it off +[12:37:20] ringo32: oh, that means you just chaged it, but are +still running Antergos +[12:37:32] Jeannie: which is just because it comes from Arch +directly +[12:37:35] antergos is stil arch +[12:37:51] even antergos is an arch member ? +[12:37:57] unlike manjaro is not +[12:38:07] Yes, and when I look at the antergos repo, I don't +see tehnecessity for a reinstall if someone wants pure arch +[12:38:33] *** ringo32 was kicked by Mikaela (first warning) +[12:38:53] *** Joins: ringo32 (~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32) +[12:39:02] What is ... +[12:39:10] kicked me for ..? fun ? +[12:39:20] Would it break something if I removed the +antergos-keyring +[12:39:36] ringo32: Antergos is not Arch. +[12:39:46] Antergos is arch +[12:39:48] you dont have to kick me, +[12:39:57] With a graphical installer and an additional repo +[12:40:17] Mikaela, who makes the cinnamon packages ? +[12:40:25] ringo32: how do I make the point across? +[12:41:05] what the mather... antergos does atleast support +arch better +[12:41:19] Is Linux Mint Ubuntu? +[12:41:55] i think you set the balance rough +[12:42:10] ringo32: Is Linux Mint Ubuntu? +[12:42:13] *** Joins: NuSuey +(uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fbzbctsdtiebcehv) +[12:42:23] Look at /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist, and tell me which +servers that list points to +[12:42:42] Jeannie: Is Linux Mint Ubuntu? +[12:42:45] Mikaela, look at the packager http://ix.io/yQB +[12:42:45] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/JPKaqO] (not a web page, +content type: text/plain) +[12:42:53] I don't care about *buntus +[12:42:58] Antergos support arch atleast +[12:43:04] where mint does not support ubuntu +[12:43:13] And when I look at my mirrorlist, I see that it +points to archinux mirrors +[12:43:26] Manjaro does not support arch +[12:43:35] there is the differences +[12:43:36] ringo32: last time I checked, Linux Mint used +Ubuntu repositories +[12:43:52] When I run uname -r, I see I run an arch kernel +[12:44:20] So If I use archlinux package mirrors nad an +archlinuix kernel, which OS am I running? +[12:44:45] 2016-05-01 12:42:45+0300 < ringo32> Mikaela, look +at the packager http://ix.io/yQB ==> so? MATE packager is the maintainer +of Ubuntu MATE last time I checked. +[12:44:45] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/JPKaqO] (not a web page, +content type: text/plain) +[12:45:32] Nevermind +[12:45:49] MATE 1.14 +[12:45:51] you dont see my point +[12:46:27] I whish Wimpress would get his ass in motion and +update the arch packages intead of messing around with ubuntu mate 16.04 +[12:46:51] its arch-based sure +[12:47:06] but also i dont see a point to move out to arch +also +[12:47:28] you are also direct on the arch repo's +[12:47:35] So the fact that the Arch MATE maintainer maintains +Ubuntu MATE too proves that antergos is not arch? +[12:48:03] at the end if arch breaks antergos breaks as well +[12:48:36] I give up. Don't come crying to me on Arch +communities hating you for not using Arch. +[12:48:53] ringo32: most of times when Antergos breaks nothing +happens at Arch +[12:49:21] Which ARCH branch are you referring to with these +breakages? +[12:49:29] stable +[12:49:36] So +[12:50:02] If I use arch mirror servers in my antergos, arch +stable breaks and antergos doees not +[12:50:15] ? +[12:50:47] If you use Antegos and Antergos breaks, in most of +cases it has been something from Antergos repo breaking. Nothing happens +at Arch as it doesn't use Antergos repository as it's not Antergos. +[12:50:47] Mikaela, just say your are on arch Wtf is so +dificult +[12:51:23] what breaks is webkitgreeter +[12:51:31] thats the antergos story +[12:51:45] or the extentions mayby further ? +[12:51:54] ringo32: Yes, I can say that as I am vanilla Arch +user and am here just of kindness. Nothing forces me to be be here or +help Antergos at all. However if you have installed using Antergos iso, +you are Antergos user, not vanilla Arch. +[12:52:04] thinks kernel related is not really antergos +[12:52:18] O +[12:52:20] i know your point +[12:52:32] its not vanila arch.... +[12:52:51] so if I were to remove the antergos-keyring, it would +just break installing stuff from the antergos repo +[12:52:51] everything can breaks and such things, is also +personal on users +[12:53:15] If you use a third party repo, aur packages or a +local repo, it's no vanilal arch either +[12:53:24] Does thsi make the system not arch anymore? +[12:53:53] Mikaela, on manjaro i uses 'unstable' repo and +users from stable broke his system by update its also personal what you +using +[12:54:30] sort of breakages or issues can be personal also +[12:54:41] I said that I don't care, just go to #archlinux +[12:54:47] but i dont see a point to remove everything to have +arch =-) +[12:55:03] i see addiditional repo's as a surplus +[12:55:19] i got a few atleast +[12:55:37] What was that about some presets or something, +someone mentioned that they can conflict with stuff +[12:55:39] but its rude to kick without explain +[12:56:19] ringo32: I did explain that Antergos is not Arch, +but you aren't willing to understand that so I just suggest you go to +#ArchLinux and make them hate you. +[12:56:27] but kicking is rude +[12:56:35] did i use rude words? +[12:57:08] is not you have to kick on personal opinion... vs +other personal +[12:57:11] *** Parts: ringo32 (~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32) +(requested by Mikaela (Sorry, I didn't understand you wanted removing +instead of kick. Next time I can also give you kban and then akick, if +that is what you really wish. However I would just suggest you to drop +the subject.)) +[12:58:02] * Jeannie shakes her head in disbelief +[13:04:53] Is the registration for the Antergos forum broken? +[13:05:14] not that I know of unless you use PrivacyBadger +which is blocking auth0.com +[13:05:58] I have been clicking on pictures with cookies, road +signs or house numbers for 6 minutes now +[13:06:04] Infinite loopback +[13:06:26] @karasu0, @lots0logs: are you aware of any forum +issues? +[13:09:28] Registration/login is not working +[13:09:32] at all +[13:09:55] what if you try another browser with default +setings or incognito mode? +[13:10:21] logging in works for me +[13:10:22] Not at all +[13:10:37] neither with Firefox nor with Pale Moon nor with +Chromium +[13:11:09] any adblockers or similar? +[13:11:12] Even password recovery mails don't arrive +[13:12:35] Yay, password recovery now results in an http 500 +error +[13:13:00] *** Parts: Jeannie (~Jeannie@unaffiliated/jeannie) +("Leaving") +[13:21:28] *** Quits: mike-zal +(~michaldyb@acpu238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) (Quit: Konversation +terminated!) +[13:27:57] *** Joins: jarco +(~Jarco@ptr-2hj4tblege78oojrzdmw6esfj.ip6.access.telenet.be) +[13:31:26] *** Aria|away is now known as Aria +[13:32:00] *** Aria is now known as Aria22 +[13:33:34] internet still broken... +[13:34:07] *** Joins: mike-zal +(~michaldyb@acpu238.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) +[13:34:56] I've had to relocate to my +chromebook for nearly everthing +[13:35:04] think it's a hardware issue +[13:38:48] what's this Teleuforia thing +[13:39:35] __telegram +[13:39:36] +https://forum.antergos.com/topic/4244/irc-has-branched-out-to-telegram +[13:39:37] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/5P67ZX] IRC has branched out +to Telegram! | Antergos Community Forum +[13:40:42] Oh so it's for phones +[13:41:00] having my Chromebook constantly +open on my desk is a pain +[13:41:38] @cedra, any platform, +https://telegram.org/download and you will find telegram-desktop-bin if +you check the AUR +[13:41:38] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/6EGXaL] Telegram Messenger on +the App Store +[13:42:01] and people who like emoji I +[13:42:04] difference to IRC is that you see all +lines that happen even if you are offline +[13:42:24] so a ZNC +[13:42:54] * needs to debug his wireless +problems * +[13:43:00] * or fix his wired connection * +[13:43:03] no, more line WhatsApp for bigger +groups, entirely different protocom +[13:43:04] __(wiki Telegram (Software)) +[13:43:06] Not found, or page malformed. +[13:43:14] okay +[13:43:21] Neat +[13:43:21] __luck Telegram +[13:43:21] luck +[13:43:38] __(luck Telegram) +[13:43:39] https://telegram.org/ | Telegram logo. a new era +... Telegram messages are heavily encrypted and can self-destruct. ... +Telegram delivers messages faster than any other application. +[13:43:39] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/JLhh36] Telegram Messenger +[13:44:02] bad explanation +[13:44:23] yay +[13:44:36] My stupid mini wifi dongle plan +worked +[13:44:41] I got internet +[13:44:47] kinda +[13:45:37] * goes to plug his raspberry pi +into his router * +[13:45:48] * hopes that ssh is on by +default * +[13:47:37] now where has that power supply +gone? +[13:55:34] yay my wired is back? +[14:01:47] *** Joins: Chioque (~Chioque@kbu-181-169.tm.net.my) +[14:08:24] *** Joins: ringo32 (~ringo_man@unaffiliated/ringo32) +[14:11:28] *** Quits: FatalException +(~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception) (Remote host +closed the connection) +[14:11:48] *** Joins: FatalException +(~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception) +[14:11:48] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v FatalException +[14:11:48] *** Euforia sets mode: +v FatalException +[14:11:56] *** Quits: FatalException +(~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception) (Remote host +closed the connection) +[14:12:13] *** Joins: FatalException +(~FatalExce@unaffiliated/yoshi2889/bot/fatalexception) +[14:12:13] *** ChanServ sets mode: +v FatalException +[14:12:13] *** Euforia sets mode: +v FatalException +[14:16:17] yay +[14:16:25] my wireless is back and my pi +is running +[14:16:33] wired, not wireless +[14:17:48] *** Quits: Chioque (~Chioque@kbu-181-169.tm.net.my) (Quit: +leaving) +[14:32:29] *** telephone_ is now known as telephone +[14:32:29] *** Quits: telephone +(~telephone@2a00:dcc0:eda:88:50:192:3871:83f5) (Changing host) +[14:32:29] *** Joins: telephone (~telephone@unaffiliated/telephone) +[14:33:42] *** telephone is now known as telephone_ +[14:37:01] *** Quits: telephone_ (~telephone@unaffiliated/telephone) +(Quit: -_-) +[14:37:18] *** Joins: telephone +(~telephone@2a00:dcc0:eda:88:50:192:3871:83f5) +[14:37:18] *** Quits: telephone +(~telephone@2a00:dcc0:eda:88:50:192:3871:83f5) (Changing host) +[14:37:18] *** Joins: telephone (~telephone@unaffiliated/telephone) +[14:37:41] *** telephone is now known as telephone_ +[14:38:15] *** telephone_ is now known as telephone +[14:42:35] *** telephone is now known as telephone_ +[14:42:57] *** telephone_ is now known as telephone +[14:46:44] *** Joins: s8321414 +(~s8321414@61-216-112-155.HINET-IP.hinet.net) +[14:58:22] *** Quits: s8321414 +(~s8321414@61-216-112-155.HINET-IP.hinet.net) (Read error: Connection +reset by peer) +[14:58:59] *** Joins: s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.61) +[15:03:35] *** Quits: NuSuey +(uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fbzbctsdtiebcehv) (Quit: Connection +closed for inactivity) +[15:11:35] *** Joins: NuSuey +(uid3556@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ywcuwmhzrrayqbqp) +[15:41:02] *** Quits: alexandros_c +(~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) (Quit: brb) +[15:41:56] *** Joins: swipe_ (~swipe@146.125.199.146.dyn.plus.net) +[15:42:11] *** Joins: alexandros_c +(~alexandro@unaffiliated/alexandros-c/x-1684531) +[15:52:48] *** Joins: Zeld0c +(5664ff6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.100.255.107) +[15:54:08] Internet doesn't work, browsers say "dns probe no +internet". Tried resetting with ifconfig, but didn't fix anything +[15:58:30] just reinstalled a Dell optiplex thingy (don't +worry, got it for free) and got the same problem. networkmanager won't +start. no problem on my 4 other machines with Antergos though +[16:00:46] *** Quits: Zeld0c +(5664ff6b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.100.255.107) (Ping timeout: 250 +seconds) +[16:09:21] *** Quits: swipe_ (~swipe@146.125.199.146.dyn.plus.net) (Ping +timeout: 246 seconds) +[16:12:10] *** Joins: swipe_ (~swipe@146.125.199.146.dyn.plus.net) +[16:14:21] systemctl status NetworkManager +[16:16:51] eh +[16:16:59] not installed :P +[16:17:23] only the addons +[16:19:02] *** Quits: swipe_ (~swipe@146.125.199.146.dyn.plus.net) (Ping +timeout: 260 seconds) +[16:20:48] that explains why it doesn't start :P +[16:23:40] yeah but it worries me why the other packages got +installed though (like networkmanager-openvpn) +[16:34:07] missing jansson, libndp, libnewt, libpgm, +libsodium, libteam, slang and zeromq before I can install it manually +[16:40:31] working now, installing the packages manually +[16:55:00] Hello +[16:55:45] hello +[16:56:17] *** Quits: s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.61) (Quit: +Konversation terminated!) +[17:00:05] Can't wait for my Moto 360 to come in tomorrow +[17:00:49] (Sticker, 512x344) +https://teleuforia.mikaela.info/Cr0wb0GR/file_259.webp +[17:00:49] -FatalException- [http://is.gd/EKTyCT] (not a web page, +content type: image/webp) +[17:00:57] *** Joins: Calinou (~quassel@unaffiliated/calinou) +[17:01:12] Heh +[17:01:24] hi +[17:01:29] trying out Antergos KDE in VirtualBox :) +[17:01:41] found how to make it boot, using iomem=relaxed in +kernel command line +[17:02:01] Hi +[17:02:45] Yes, vbox is buggy +[17:02:54] I plan to install Antergos on bare metal later +[17:03:00] but need Windows somewhere (virtual machine maybe) +[17:03:16] for running Adobe CC, what would you recommend? +using VirtualBox Windows guest or KVM/QEMU? +[17:03:19] which one would be faster +[17:03:28] KVM +[17:03:47] VBox maybe has faster graphics +performance +[17:04:02] KVM excels in nearly everything else +[17:04:17] *** Joins: FirePowi (~powi@powi.fr) +[17:04:28] yeah I've seen Phoronix benchmarks +[17:04:59] however there's a small concern, I'll occasionally +use Premiere/After Effects +[17:05:04] is that even usable at low resolutions in a VM? +[17:05:09] nothing very intense +[17:05:21] It'll be usable +[17:05:28] Maybe a tad slow +[17:05:32] I have an i7 +[17:05:36]