blog/{mppn,mcasbo}: fix warning on server versions

This also removes mentions of Conduit as after discussing feedback, I
agree that it's not affiliated with either New Vector Limited or Matrix
Foundation, so referring to it is unfair.
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Aminda Suomalainen 2022-08-19 10:37:22 +03:00
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@ -84,6 +84,9 @@ and as your room is hosted on every homeserver that has users in your room,
have a single homeserver that hasn't explicitly enabled it, or doesn't otherwise support it, and the room have a single homeserver that hasn't explicitly enabled it, or doesn't otherwise support it, and the room
history never goes away. Executing `/upgraderoom {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` or any other version [will also remove the event](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/11279). history never goes away. Executing `/upgraderoom {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` or any other version [will also remove the event](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/11279).
***WARNING! Always before executing `/upgraderoom` check that everyone in your room has a recent Matrix server that supports your target room version. Otherwise you may lock your users out.*** For example `/invite @version:maunium.net` and once it joins, say
`!servers` and once it finishes printing server versions you can `!servers match SOFTWARE < 1.0` to get list of servers running SOFTWARE smaller than 1.0. Once aware of what servers are being used, either check their changelogs/documentation/support_rooms/admins for their support to your target version e.g. {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}.
In case there isn't enough confusion, retention shouldn't be confused with actual [self-destructing/disappearing messages](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/82). In case there isn't enough confusion, retention shouldn't be confused with actual [self-destructing/disappearing messages](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/82).
*Technical note: sorry about calling <s>reference</s> homeserver implementation by the matrix.org team issue *Technical note: sorry about calling <s>reference</s> homeserver implementation by the matrix.org team issue

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@ -30,16 +30,8 @@ smaller steps:
2. ***WARNING*** You should check [the Matrix spec](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/) 2. ***WARNING*** You should check [the Matrix spec](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/)
for the latest stable room version. Or maybe the [unstable spec](https://spec.matrix.org/unstable/rooms/)? for the latest stable room version. Or maybe the [unstable spec](https://spec.matrix.org/unstable/rooms/)?
Or maybe you should just [search GitHub](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/issues?q=room%20version)? Or maybe you should just [search GitHub](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/issues?q=room%20version)?
I have no idea how that works as the time of writing both are missing room versions 8 and 9. 3. ***WARNING! Always before executing `/upgraderoom` check that everyone in your room has a recent Matrix server that supports your target room version. Otherwise you may lock your users out.*** For example `/invite @version:maunium.net` and once it joins, say
3. ***WARNING*** Traditionally homeservers by other parties than Matrix.org `!servers` and once it finishes printing server versions you can `!servers match SOFTWARE < 1.0` to get list of servers running SOFTWARE smaller than 1.0. Once aware of what servers are being used, either check their changelogs/documentation/support_rooms/admins for their support to your target version e.g. {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}.
(read Synapse/Dendrite) lag behind on supported room versions and you may break
your room for people using those. At the time of adding this note (2021-12-14), the
spec v1.1 is a month and couple of days old (2021-09-11) <s>and <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/161§">room version 7 is not implemented by Conduit</a></s>.
1. Yes, at the time of writing this post I am recommending version 9,
while the aforementioned variable is {{ site.matrixLatestRoomVersion }},
as that is what Element encourages and features such as restricted rooms
require and as this post hints, Matrix is even more impossible to manage
without those.
4. Clear cache and reload so the old space maybe disappears. 4. Clear cache and reload so the old space maybe disappears.
5. See also [Element-web#19208: Allow upgrading spaces](https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/19208) 5. See also [Element-web#19208: Allow upgrading spaces](https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/19208)
6. Now that there is a space, right click it to create a new room under it and 6. Now that there is a space, right click it to create a new room under it and
@ -98,9 +90,7 @@ you simply use `/devtools` and ban the entire server by sending a completely new
so having to do this 20 times is nothing to you. so having to do this 20 times is nothing to you.
*2022-01-10 addition:* this becomes worse as Matrix Synapse alongside [the Matrix protocol itself will authorise everything done by servers that don't honour the `m.room.server_acl` event](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/928) *2022-01-10 addition:* this becomes worse as Matrix Synapse alongside [the Matrix protocol itself will authorise everything done by servers that don't honour the `m.room.server_acl` event](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/928)
so as per the guide, you will have to acl those servers too (or the ACL might as well not exist). <s>Sadly at the time so as per the guide, you will have to acl those servers too (or the ACL might as well not exist).
of writing that also includes <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/67">Conduit, so all Conduits must be ACLed too</a>,
even if they weren't malicious.</s> <s>A minor comfort is that <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/161">Conduit doesn't currently support room versions 7, 8 and 9</a></s>
### Icing on the cake ### Icing on the cake
@ -166,11 +156,3 @@ going to stop using Matrix.
* [Obligatory changelog link](https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2021-12-05-matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.md) * [Obligatory changelog link](https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2021-12-05-matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.md)
* * * * *
* 2022-02-07: Conduit implemented ACL a couple of weeks ago, [Matrix Spec version is nowadays 1.2](https://matrix.org/blog/2022/02/02/matrix-v-1-2-release), but [no Element supports knocking from room version 7 (of Matrix 1.1)](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/43) to my knowledge.
* 2022-07-29: Conduit has had room versions 7, 8 and 9 for some time now, Matrix Spec version
has been at version 1.3 for a couple of weeks (2022-06-16), Dendrite has
supported room version 10 since around that time, Synapse has it in rc that
hopefully releases next week and Elements still don't support knocking
(from Matrix room version 7).