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blog/{mppn,mcasbo}: fix warning on server versions
This also removes mentions of Conduit as after discussing feedback, I agree that it's not affiliated with either New Vector Limited or Matrix Foundation, so referring to it is unfair.
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@ -84,6 +84,9 @@ and as your room is hosted on every homeserver that has users in your room,
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have a single homeserver that hasn't explicitly enabled it, or doesn't otherwise support it, and the room
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have a single homeserver that hasn't explicitly enabled it, or doesn't otherwise support it, and the room
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history never goes away. Executing `/upgraderoom {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` or any other version [will also remove the event](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/11279).
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history never goes away. Executing `/upgraderoom {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}` or any other version [will also remove the event](https://github.com/matrix-org/synapse/issues/11279).
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***WARNING! Always before executing `/upgraderoom` check that everyone in your room has a recent Matrix server that supports your target room version. Otherwise you may lock your users out.*** For example `/invite @version:maunium.net` and once it joins, say
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`!servers` and once it finishes printing server versions you can `!servers match SOFTWARE < 1.0` to get list of servers running SOFTWARE smaller than 1.0. Once aware of what servers are being used, either check their changelogs/documentation/support_rooms/admins for their support to your target version e.g. {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}.
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In case there isn't enough confusion, retention shouldn't be confused with actual [self-destructing/disappearing messages](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/82).
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In case there isn't enough confusion, retention shouldn't be confused with actual [self-destructing/disappearing messages](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/82).
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*Technical note: sorry about calling <s>reference</s> homeserver implementation by the matrix.org team issue
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*Technical note: sorry about calling <s>reference</s> homeserver implementation by the matrix.org team issue
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2. ***WARNING*** You should check [the Matrix spec](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/)
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2. ***WARNING*** You should check [the Matrix spec](https://spec.matrix.org/latest/rooms/)
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for the latest stable room version. Or maybe the [unstable spec](https://spec.matrix.org/unstable/rooms/)?
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for the latest stable room version. Or maybe the [unstable spec](https://spec.matrix.org/unstable/rooms/)?
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Or maybe you should just [search GitHub](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/issues?q=room%20version)?
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Or maybe you should just [search GitHub](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec-proposals/issues?q=room%20version)?
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I have no idea how that works as the time of writing both are missing room versions 8 and 9.
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3. ***WARNING! Always before executing `/upgraderoom` check that everyone in your room has a recent Matrix server that supports your target room version. Otherwise you may lock your users out.*** For example `/invite @version:maunium.net` and once it joins, say
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3. ***WARNING*** Traditionally homeservers by other parties than Matrix.org
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`!servers` and once it finishes printing server versions you can `!servers match SOFTWARE < 1.0` to get list of servers running SOFTWARE smaller than 1.0. Once aware of what servers are being used, either check their changelogs/documentation/support_rooms/admins for their support to your target version e.g. {{site.matrixLatestRoomVersion}}.
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(read Synapse/Dendrite) lag behind on supported room versions and you may break
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your room for people using those. At the time of adding this note (2021-12-14), the
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spec v1.1 is a month and couple of days old (2021-09-11) <s>and <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/161§">room version 7 is not implemented by Conduit</a></s>.
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1. Yes, at the time of writing this post I am recommending version 9,
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while the aforementioned variable is {{ site.matrixLatestRoomVersion }},
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as that is what Element encourages and features such as restricted rooms
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require and as this post hints, Matrix is even more impossible to manage
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without those.
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4. Clear cache and reload so the old space maybe disappears.
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4. Clear cache and reload so the old space maybe disappears.
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5. See also [Element-web#19208: Allow upgrading spaces](https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/19208)
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5. See also [Element-web#19208: Allow upgrading spaces](https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/19208)
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6. Now that there is a space, right click it to create a new room under it and
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6. Now that there is a space, right click it to create a new room under it and
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so having to do this 20 times is nothing to you.
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so having to do this 20 times is nothing to you.
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*2022-01-10 addition:* this becomes worse as Matrix Synapse alongside [the Matrix protocol itself will authorise everything done by servers that don't honour the `m.room.server_acl` event](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/928)
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*2022-01-10 addition:* this becomes worse as Matrix Synapse alongside [the Matrix protocol itself will authorise everything done by servers that don't honour the `m.room.server_acl` event](https://github.com/matrix-org/matrix-spec/issues/928)
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so as per the guide, you will have to acl those servers too (or the ACL might as well not exist). <s>Sadly at the time
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so as per the guide, you will have to acl those servers too (or the ACL might as well not exist).
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of writing that also includes <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/67">Conduit, so all Conduits must be ACLed too</a>,
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even if they weren't malicious.</s> <s>A minor comfort is that <a href="https://gitlab.com/famedly/conduit/-/issues/161">Conduit doesn't currently support room versions 7, 8 and 9</a></s>
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### Icing on the cake
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### Icing on the cake
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* [Obligatory changelog link](https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2021-12-05-matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.md)
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* [Obligatory changelog link](https://github.com/Mikaela/mikaela.github.io/commits/master/blog/_posts/2021-12-05-matrix-community-abuse-security-by-obscurity.md)
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* * * * *
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* 2022-02-07: Conduit implemented ACL a couple of weeks ago, [Matrix Spec version is nowadays 1.2](https://matrix.org/blog/2022/02/02/matrix-v-1-2-release), but [no Element supports knocking from room version 7 (of Matrix 1.1)](https://github.com/vector-im/element-meta/issues/43) to my knowledge.
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* 2022-07-29: Conduit has had room versions 7, 8 and 9 for some time now, Matrix Spec version
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has been at version 1.3 for a couple of weeks (2022-06-16), Dendrite has
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supported room version 10 since around that time, Synapse has it in rc that
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hopefully releases next week and Elements still don't support knocking
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(from Matrix room version 7).
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