2015-06-11 10:54:19 +02:00
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layout: post
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comments: true
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title: "Trying to be a better op"
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category: [english]
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tags: [english, irc]
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2018-04-29 10:54:08 +02:00
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published: false
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2015-06-11 10:54:19 +02:00
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*If ops are attacked, the channel is also hurt as much as if users were
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attacked. Thus I am also taking action if op is attacked.*
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Usually when I am op, it's easy to take action when someone else or some
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user is attacked. When op is attacked and they take action, they are
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"unable to handle criticism" or "abusing ops" or *anything like that here.*
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From now, I will try to unlearn from that and be a better op at least on
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channels that have clear (written or not) rules as on channels that don't,
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there possibly no way to know what the ops are even supposed to do other
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than look so scary that no one does anything bad.
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There are only two issues that I see immediately now that I am typing this:
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* What is an attack?
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* What if it's not an attack and op makes a mistake?
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The second is easy to answer, if there are multiple ops, the user affected
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by the mistake can discuss about it with other ops present and/or the
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other ops can revert whatever was done.
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But there is still the question *what is an attack*?
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2015-06-12 07:52:12 +02:00
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*Attack is a deliberate attempt to hurt someone* which again is unclear,
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but so I am told and I must probably use my judgement on it which again
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can results to mistakes, but those are reversible by other ops.
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2015-10-10 08:15:56 +02:00
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<s>Trying to analyze logs of the previous case this happened, it looks like
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attack is at least:</s>
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2015-10-10 08:15:56 +02:00
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* <s>directly targeted to a person, not part of them, and not generally saying
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that some part of them makes or doesn't make them X and neither it's
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generally talking about that part and oneself own experiences of them.</s>
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* <s>the *not*-parts still feel like attacks reading this, but other ops
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say that it's assertiveness.</s>
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* <s>talking about privilege for living in X where things are better and that
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means that the attacked one cannot have any kinds of issues with anything</s>
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<s>including mental health</s>
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* <s>talking like the attacked one was attacking them</s>
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* <s>*additions welcome*</s>
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2015-06-11 10:54:19 +02:00
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Attack seems to also be when the attacked one communicates being
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uncomfortable (which should be done clearly, but do they always remember
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that instead of getting defensive) or when third party tells the people to
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calm down, but other party still continues. <s>I think the usual three
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warnings policy can be implemented here.</s>
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One way to express uncomfortability or feeling attacked would be for
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example saying "I think that is disrespectful" or "I feel you are attacking
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me".
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2015-06-11 10:54:19 +02:00
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Further reading would be the two policies from freenode and I currently
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don't feel like commenting them further as my opinions are known.
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* [Freenode's catalysts policy](https://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml)
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* [Freenode's channel guidelines](https://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml)
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2015-06-12 07:52:12 +02:00
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*Reviewed on 2015-06-12T08:51+0300 based on what others commented to me.*
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